Ok so Ginger and I went to see the surgeon on Wednesday. I am going to have surgery. It's just a matter of getting a few more things covered like notes from Dr. Maki saying that we dicussed weightloss and such. The notes have to be his notes not a summery. Also I think I can use my PT time to go to the final stuff I need. I'm thinking definately by xmas. So I'm going to be a new man next year. I am 169 pounds overweight. I can't wait to get better. I really like Dr. Seidel and his nurse that took my vitals is real cool to. I'm going to get her email addy next time I see her. We talked about fire and training and stuff. We had a good time. Ginger and I also stopped at all the thrift stores we could find while we were in Minoqua. We spent 50 bux and I'm sure we will make it back plus a bunch in ebay.